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Disagree with you as well 500Nitro on this one-- I own both and quite frankly the cz is the crudest POS I have ever used when first bought new..almost always have to take them to a gunsmith to clean them up otherwise all of mine have hung up ...have never experienced that with the Winchesters I have.. Also, while at SCI...saw lots of custom big bores..many with Dakota or Winchester actions --never saw any with the CZ action.. mmmm..... While the CZ is a good action--IMHO it is not in the same league as the pre-64's were..initally at least... Ripp |