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i would still look at the cz, i know shanster had some trouble with one but here in europe they are considered very good for the price and a lot of costum jobs use the 550 lockwork as a basis. just stay away from the pigback stock that will hurt you every time you pull the trigger. ![]() price wice it groups with the american makes and the cheap italian guns. but they can stand a lot more abuse and still keep on shooting. if you want it to be real fun they make them in 505 gibbs now ![]() peter |