Btw how to loose gun makers as posters, post lots of quite rude posts. I see the last post on this thread was the second to last post made on our forums.

I wondered about comments during a telephone conversation back then. Politeness doesn't hurt and helps forums. A gun maker doesn't need to post here, just share on their own sites and shows. A gun maker making oodles of sales ten years ago doesnt need to post here. I was encouraging them to do so.