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the 404 Schueler Magnun was a maybe pre WW 1 improvement of the 404 by Schueler some years ago one case was found in the old proof house in zella mehlis behind an old board after being there for 80 -90 years iirc, by the old master Ziegenhahn. he had made a chamber reamer and at least one rifle, brass can be made from 460 weatherby cases. the cartridge is also in the 460 weatherby class and much to heavy but cool! ![]() http://www.municion.org/ the Zi-Di headstamp is an old Ziegenhahn trademark, its a reworked weatherby case any 404 rifle can be changed into the 404 Magnum |