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The Pachmayr Old English recoil pads are excellent. They look great once they have been properly fitted to the stock. They are soft enough to be easy on the shoulder, but still grind well for a nice fit to your stock. I prefer the black pad myself because it looks very clean and unobtrusive. Beware that the "Red" pads Pachmayr sells are not a true red. They are not as dark colored as the old Silvers or Winchester style pads and have an orange tint to my eyes. I wish Pachmayr would fix that color issue because I always liked the color of the old Silvers pads. The problem with the Silvers pads is they were hard as bricks and were no help at absorbing recoil. The Pachmayr is much softer and absorbs recoil significantly better. You will be very happy with one ! Wyatt |