It would be very nice to see if somebody here could show me a scope which looks so good and has same abilities with light as ZEISS V8 or Swarovski Z3 has. The reason for using these scopes is very clear; the biggest deer with biggest horn comes allways so late in the evening that you just need all light what yours scope could catch. In autumn deer season, before the snow has come, dark is very steep and comes very early.