Here in the states if u watch cabalas online gun library the model thitys pop up often along with p17/14 spotters.the nice part of the 30s is everything is done but grinding the clip guide and a barrel.also they don't seem to have a collector following.pacnor can make a drop in short chamber barrel in most of the odd calibers.except 318.go to Walther for that.but I want down the the prickley rabbit trail on my 416 trying to be cheap.