No HS you are not a "novice". I was speaking of the contemporary "see thru" rings that are being sold so "you can still use the iron sights". As today's scopes are stronger and more reliable than any irons except some military rifles oe express sights, they really make no sense. A classic rifle such as yours, my FN or the Sedgleys that were made that way CAN be used as is but they are not as comfortable as a modern design.

As I have said from the start of this thread, I have no wish to debate the merits of suitcase handle mounting systems.

My objective was to be able to have a more comfortable system yet leave the claw mount bases in place.

I don't wish to argue about this. It appears there are no ideas forthcoming, so I guess it's time to move along.

When I get back to WY and figure out how to do this in a non desuctive manner, I'll be sure to post some pictures.

Thanks.