don,,, ive known roger green who has these for sale for over 35 years he built a few guns for me including the 458 that ive posted pics of here i chatted with him last week when i seen them on guns inter.,,i did not know about the mausers being for sale till it was too late ,,go to his website [roger green gunmaker] for the rest that are already gone including a rare 6.5x58 portugese !!!!!!..............paul