Igorrock, Thanks, good info.

Lancaster, I do, Ido and I did. Sent the funds today.

Huvius, being a bit of a Prude, I didn't dare to Google it

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Stephen, Agree with first paragraph. Thanks for 2nd para.

I have wondered on what actual action version Fraser would have used. I had thought all 93's have the flat bottom bolt face. As for the "get started", being a bit of a 6.5 junkie as well as a Fraser junkie, I am thinking the Serengeti would be better served with a "Coker/Fraser-izied" 6.5x55...... Or a 7.65arg, or a 7x57, or a .303, or something really obsure like a .242 or a .240apex..............

I am assuming this 8x51 will be a ".318" Obviously I will slug, cast, measure everything. I guess there will be dies to make, brass to form (yes, I believe the .308 will work) make a swage.......Looks like the new workshop will get a new project

I see there where factory loads in 157gr thru 196gr. I am thinking something like a 200-ish projectile with 35-ish Varget for 2000-ish. The cool factor of a 170 32spec Flat Nose notwithstanding