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Thank you Kuduae So who was the rifle a gift to? I used Google translate and thought that it was to one of the officers of the company. As far as 127grains at 2700, that sounds about ideal. The only data that I saw was for a 120gr at 2500. Fine also for deer and bear in this area. The dies are reasonable from CH4D and they do have them listed. Thank you all for the help with this one. It would be nice to take it to the woods this coming winter. Tom |