first one is a 8x57, claimed african historie and claw mounts for a long and a short scope, number 125248

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3402948

and a 9,3x62, was bought fromt he widow of a Schutztruppen officier years ago
very rare Zeiss Ziel 8 scope , number 78209

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3410393