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Great post szihn, agree with all that. I love the 318WR. Just seems to me to be a beautifully balanced cartridge, good bullet weight, decent bullet diameter and a medium velocity. Here's the Greenhill formula for those who might want it; but please take note of the quote from Daryl S's post above: "Many fail to remember or realize it is showing the slowest twist that will work, not the optimum rate of twist" The Greenhill formula T= (150 x D)/R Where: T- is the twist required (number of inches per one revolution) D- is the diameter of the bullet (in inches) R- is the ratio of bullet length to bullet diameter (length divided by diameter) Conversely, to find out what length bullet will be stabilized in a given twist, use: L= (150 x D x D)/T Where: L- is bullet length The number 150 is a constant used by Greenhill, and works well at velocities in the vicinity of 1500 feet-per-second or greater. At 2800 feet-per-second the constant can be changed to 180 with good results. Note that it is the bullet length that is important, not the bullet weight. Greenhill works well with all lead and lead-alloys commonly used for bullets. One must also understand that Greenhill is derived from experience as well as from the calculated laws of physics. As such, it is a highly simplified, albeit useful equation. Greenhill was worked-out many years ago and is quoted in the “British Textbook of Small Arms” (1929) Hope this helps Best ALEX |