thank you for the welcome I am just starting to get a few rifles just bought a model 98 that is a mess I posted some pic of it I think it will look good when I finish it pretty scary right now I only paid 50 bucks for it .I figured it would be a good project gun to play with. last fall I got myself a nice winchester 1886 that is in very good shape now all I have to do is learn how to load my own shells between that and the jeffery's put you in poor house going to the range