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Paul, According to Dixon's book "European sporting cartridges" pg 169 8x60 Mauser " the 8x60 is the older "J" type smaller diameter bullet is believed to have been introduced shortly after the 8x60S type to allow re-chambering the older 8x57J Mauser rifles for sporting use. Last listed by IWK (DWM) until it went out of business in 1972". Case listed as W 36 Case listed as W 37 8x60S Mauser " The "S" bullet diameter 8x60 was the first of the 8x60 types, introduced by DWM c1920 in responce to the 1918 German gun laws. This allowed sporting use of re-chambered 8x57S Mauser rifles, as that calibre was banned after WWI. The longer case actually improved performance and became very popular, improved over the years with the more powerful Magnum and Magnum Bombe loadings. Still made by RWS into the 1990's." The question of the Normal designation has puzzled me for some time due to the different articles I have read. I quess I will have to dig them all out tomorrow and measure and report back. If you would like send me a PM with your e-mail address & I will snap a picture with the different bullets with their original boxes & measurements. 1 other comment is from what I have read the rim is suppose to be knurled on the Magnum Bombe cartridge, this does not ring true with the box that I have the cases look the same so I tend to be a little skepticle of what is written and have to prove it out to myself by purchasing sealed factory boxes and inspecting them. After todays purchase I have some of each and tomorrow I will measure them & report my finding. m4220 |