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What is this 10,75x68 rifle?
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I came across this rifle the other day, and I found it slightly interesting. (It's not mine, that's for sure!). The rifle is as you can see chambered for the 10,75x68 cartridge. Böhler Spezial is written on the barrel. I find the rear sights a bit abnormal too. The bolt looks newer than a standard M98 bolt as well. There are something with the rifle that makes me think it is a "home made" mix rifle, but I really can't tell for sure because other details looks like a factory build rifle. I can't tell you any more details about it, but my question is if anyone have seen anything like this before? I would guess it is produced somewhere in the 1950's, perhaps 1960's. Obviously I understand that it is more or less impossible to identify a rifle 100% with this limited information, but I would like to ask you guys anyway. Any thoughts?
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Huvius
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24/05/16 10:42 AM
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Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?
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The stock looks a lot like a Francotte Mauser I have seen before. Bohler is the barrel steel maker. Are there any proofs Belgian or German?
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I agree that Böhler is the barrel steel maker, that name is seen on a lot of E.G. German rifles. I don't have access to other pictures now, but I expect to receive some more shortly. What you say about Francotte is interesting. I'll add some more pictures as soon as I have them available.
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There are a few features that remind me to Voere Austria.
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the rear sight looks like the typical Winchester sight
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I received a couple more photos. Apparently there is no text on the left side of the action. I believe the markings means the following:
PV surmounted by the lion is Nitro proofing used by FN in Belgium. This proofing was used in the period 1898-1968. (It's very possible that other smaller factories used the same proofing, but the rifle is produced in Belgium for sure.)
The marking in the middle, the Perron, is a final proof.
The Z with a star above is apparently the inspector mark. There are two guys that used Z with a star above as their inspector mark in the time span I find relevant. Mr. Degobert Theodore 1924-1949 and Mr. Luyten Martin 1952-1968 and 1974-1989. I believe there should be more markings, but they could off course be hidden under some wood. A single letter should be sufficient to find the production year.
I believe the last picture was very useful, and I don't think we will be able to get any further without more details available. The rifle is located some hours’ drive away, so I am not sure I'll ever see it live. I still believe the rifle is produced some years after WW2. Anybody have any idea for how long the factories kept supplying rifles in this chambering? At some point I would guess they concluded that .404 Jeffery was a better design?
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Igorrock
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26/05/16 02:37 AM
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I have seen such rear sight on Husqvarna rifles too. Action seems to be proofed in Belgium but the sum of other parts makes me to think that this rifle is a kind of puzzle i.e. some one has made a custon rifle from parts.
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The bolt shroud is not typical but may be factory for whatever factory produced this rifle. It is shaped for use with a sliding side safety that is visible.
Vlad
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It is the somewhat unusual shape of the boltshroud that has resemblance to some early types of Voere rifles/modified actions.
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Pretty shoddy work. Check out space between barrel shoulder and receiver. Dovetailing receiver ring is not the brightest way to mount a scope.Poorly installed cross bolt.Action may have been proofed in Belgium but bottom metal and bolt shroud say low end custom. Too bad as the caliber is desirable to collectors.
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Huvius
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08/06/16 11:30 AM
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Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?
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The caliber might be desirable to collectors but to shooters it is a downright pain! I have found that a good Oberndorf Mauser in any chambering will outsell a 10.75X68. It is a great cartridge, even more so with modern powders and projectiles, and I think Hornady could have quite a market if they would only make some brass.
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