Kammerherren
(.224 member)
24/05/16 08:44 AM
What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

I came across this rifle the other day, and I found it slightly interesting. (It's not mine, that's for sure!). The rifle is as you can see chambered for the 10,75x68 cartridge. Böhler Spezial is written on the barrel. I find the rear sights a bit abnormal too. The bolt looks newer than a standard M98 bolt as well. There are something with the rifle that makes me think it is a "home made" mix rifle, but I really can't tell for sure because other details looks like a factory build rifle. I can't tell you any more details about it, but my question is if anyone have seen anything like this before? I would guess it is produced somewhere in the 1950's, perhaps 1960's. Obviously I understand that it is more or less impossible to identify a rifle 100% with this limited information, but I would like to ask you guys anyway. Any thoughts?






Huvius
(.416 member)
24/05/16 10:42 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

The stock looks a lot like a Francotte Mauser I have seen before.
Bohler is the barrel steel maker.
Are there any proofs Belgian or German?


Kammerherren
(.224 member)
24/05/16 04:03 PM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

I agree that Böhler is the barrel steel maker, that name is seen on a lot of E.G. German rifles. I don't have access to other pictures now, but I expect to receive some more shortly. What you say about Francotte is interesting. I'll add some more pictures as soon as I have them available.

justcurious
(.333 member)
24/05/16 04:48 PM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

There are a few features that remind me to Voere Austria.

lancaster
(.470 member)
25/05/16 05:09 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

the rear sight looks like the typical Winchester sight

Kammerherren
(.224 member)
25/05/16 07:36 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

I received a couple more photos. Apparently there is no text on the left side of the action. I believe the markings means the following:

PV surmounted by the lion is Nitro proofing used by FN in Belgium. This proofing was used in the period 1898-1968. (It's very possible that other smaller factories used the same proofing, but the rifle is produced in Belgium for sure.)

The marking in the middle, the Perron, is a final proof.

The Z with a star above is apparently the inspector mark. There are two guys that used Z with a star above as their inspector mark in the time span I find relevant. Mr. Degobert Theodore 1924-1949 and Mr. Luyten Martin 1952-1968 and 1974-1989. I believe there should be more markings, but they could off course be hidden under some wood. A single letter should be sufficient to find the production year.

I believe the last picture was very useful, and I don't think we will be able to get any further without more details available. The rifle is located some hours’ drive away, so I am not sure I'll ever see it live. I still believe the rifle is produced some years after WW2. Anybody have any idea for how long the factories kept supplying rifles in this chambering? At some point I would guess they concluded that .404 Jeffery was a better design?





Igorrock
(.400 member)
26/05/16 02:37 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

I have seen such rear sight on Husqvarna rifles too. Action seems to be proofed in Belgium but the sum of other parts makes me to think that this rifle is a kind of puzzle i.e. some one has made a custon rifle from parts.

Vladymere
(.300 member)
26/05/16 12:22 PM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

The bolt shroud is not typical but may be factory for whatever factory produced this rifle. It is shaped for use with a sliding side safety that is visible.

Vlad


justcurious
(.333 member)
26/05/16 06:20 PM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

It is the somewhat unusual shape of the boltshroud that has resemblance to some early types of Voere rifles/modified actions.

Wanabebwana
(.300 member)
08/06/16 10:10 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

Pretty shoddy work. Check out space between barrel shoulder and receiver. Dovetailing receiver ring is not the brightest way to mount a scope.Poorly installed cross bolt.Action may have been proofed in Belgium but bottom metal and bolt shroud say low end custom. Too bad as the caliber is desirable to collectors.

Huvius
(.416 member)
08/06/16 11:30 AM
Re: What is this 10,75x68 rifle?

The caliber might be desirable to collectors but to shooters it is a downright pain!
I have found that a good Oberndorf Mauser in any chambering will outsell a 10.75X68.
It is a great cartridge, even more so with modern powders and projectiles, and I think Hornady could have quite a market if they would only make some brass.



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