Thanks for the information Daryl and Mckinney I started reloading last winter to pass the toughest part of the winter by because of the inreasing cost of ammunition, and bought decent RCBS equipment. I have reloaded '06, .308, .375 H&H, 300 win mag, and 300 win short mag. I don't have the 8x57 dies but can pick some up, What would be a good die to neck up the 8mm brass? Also When you mention fire forming I'm assuming firing an 8x57 cartridge in my 9x57 rifle-correct?