simpson ltd. of IL. had one about 3 months ago in (if i can remember), 8x60 a typical african style , sold for around 2k or maybe less lasted about 1 day on there site.as far as the stock goes some germans were just gone over them .they werent for the brit market

xausa , i have a griefelt in 11.2x60 schuler with a 28" barrel and 5 folding leaves so i guess whoever thought of whomever would be shooting these things, they must have figured on long distance shooting ,just imagine trying to shoot something at 500yards with this schuler round ,the drop is probably 4 feet , so there are a lot of things that dont make sense ,i dont even think you,d be allowed to take a shot that long by law these days ....paul