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Igorrock
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17/08/12 12:25 AM
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Mauser in .45/70
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IMHO quite a nice custom rifle. I suppose it basics on Mauser Siamese action:
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3984447
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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the short fat barrel make's it a little bit compact and I wonder if its a singel or double row magazin.
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Igorrock
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17/08/12 06:18 PM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Such short rifles in .45/70 are quite popular here in Finland among those moose hunters who hunt with own dog. Those rifles are mostly lever action Brownings but for many reasons I would prefer mauser type magazin rifle in that purpose.
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gryphon
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17/08/12 09:35 PM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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An ugly brute imo.
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Igorrock
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17/08/12 10:21 PM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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IMHO it looks very much like what it is; short, tough, heavy but handy rifle. Those properties are just perfect for that caliber. 
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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I like it.
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gryphon
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18/08/12 04:15 AM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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You would think that short little barrel would throw the pills with a rainbow trajectory at any range
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Paatti
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18/08/12 04:32 AM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Trajectory is not that bad when using homeloaded cartridges and action is something else than trapdoor strength. Ok its not a flat shooting caliber even if bullets are pushed bit faster but decent for moosehunting in here.
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Igorrock
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18/08/12 04:45 PM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Moosehunting with dog in Finland means in many cases situation that forest is very dense, you are very near of standing moose and a barking dog. Thatīs why handy rifle and big caliber with heavy bullets is very useful combination. And the "rainbow trajectory" in that case is a positive attribute only. 
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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I think it would look better with a compact 4x Leupold or Zeiss. If it was mine, I would use the irons more than a scope for close in work. I have an 86 Winchester carbine 45-70 and the stainless Marlin guide gun for the same purposes.
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DarylS
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03/05/14 01:11 AM
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Just because the barrel is short, does not mean it has a grossly arched trajectory.
Guide gun (18 1/2"bl.) by Marlin, in my buddy's locker, uses 49.0gr. Re#7 - straight from Speer's loading manual.
With the flat point 400gr. Barnes (OS) he uses, we both chronographed it at just over 2,000fps - 2,004fps from my machine and 2,007fps from his. These speeds are 150fps higher than noted in the manual. His rifle shows normal, light pressure with them. The Mauser action is even stronger than the Marlin.
If he wished, he could drive the 350gr. Speers are about 2,100fps from a 2" case (1/10" short).
With a scope, it is easily a 300 yard moose rifle.
When I lived in Smithers in the late 70's, I put together a Siamese Mauser for a friend & helped him develop loads for it.
We found it easily used the same loads in the 2.1" case, that I was using in my .458 American (2"). Thus, from the 22" bl. (same as mine) he was driving 350gr. Hornady's at 2,300fps, 400gr. Barnes Spitzers at 2,150fps and 500gr. Hornadys at 2,060fps.
There are no flies on that rifle or round.
Personally, I think the rifle needs a pistol-gripped stock and a longer barrel, but for a close range, up to 300yard rifle, it fills it's purpose for sure.
Surprisingly, we also found the 300gr. Sierra FN to be a good moose bullet when driven at 2,200fps as well, from my bother's .45/ 3-1/4" Sharps.
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Quote:
Just because the barrel is short, does not mean it has a grossly arched trajectory.
Guide gun (18 1/2"bl.) by Marlin, in my buddy's locker, uses 49.0gr. Re#7 - straight from Speer's loading manual.
With the flat point 400gr. Barnes (OS) he uses, we both chronographed it at just over 2,000fps - 2,004fps from my machine and 2,007fps from his. These speeds are 150fps higher than noted in the manual. His rifle shows normal, light pressure with them. The Mauser action is even stronger than the Marlin.
If he wished, he could drive the 350gr. Speers are about 2,100fps from a 2" case (1/10" short).
With a scope, it is easily a 300 yard moose rifle.
When I lived in Smithers in the late 70's, I put together a Siamese Mauser for a friend & helped him develop loads for it.
We found it easily used the same loads in the 2.1" case, that I was using in my .458 American (2"). Thus, from the 22" bl. (same as mine) he was driving 350gr. Hornady's at 2,300fps, 400gr. Barnes Spitzers at 2,150fps and 500gr. Hornadys at 2,060fps.
There are no flies on that rifle or round.
Personally, I think the rifle needs a pistol-gripped stock and a longer barrel, but for a close range, up to 300yard rifle, it fills it's purpose for sure.
Surprisingly, we also found the 300gr. Sierra FN to be a good moose bullet when driven at 2,200fps as well, from my bother's .45/ 3-1/4" Sharps.
I have a Marlin guide gun as well, I've used several of the Buffalo Bore cartridges before with tremendous success on whitetail, elk and hog. The 300 grain 45-70 at 2350 fps is a screamer.
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=35
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Re: Mauser in .45/70
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Nice rifle. Big .45-70 fan here, but the only way I can actually hunt with it in my state is coyotes if using a rifle or in a handgun for deer-so I have a 12" Contender. Cowboy action level loads aren't bad to shoot, and that's similar to the load that killed millions of buffalo so I don't think deer will argue much. Modern hunting ammo just plain hurts.
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