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This rifle was restored by the Dorleac firm in France for a collector in Spain. The rifle is an original Jeffery 333. Happy viewing! |
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Very tidy. |
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That will make a certain Spaniard very happy. Von Gruff. |
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This is the level of quality restoration one expects from Dorleac. Top shelf. |
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looks like a standard mauser action ,,i wonder if thats the original bottom metal..never seen that style on a 333...paul |
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What kind of money did it bring? |
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Paul, Everything on the rifle was originally on it from what I understand. The rifle was just restored by Dorleac for the Spanish collector. Not a rebuild. My guess is that whoever ordered the rifle from W J Jeffery originally must have specified whatever different features it has, though, of course, this is only speculation on my behalf. Good hunting, my friend! |
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GeorgeGibbs505, No idea how much money was spent and I didn't ask. I'm just happy that the owner agreed to send the pictures for posting here as I know that many would enjoy them. M. Dorleac has been helpful in getting these permissions from a very private individual and I'm grateful to him for his help. Glad you liked these pics. Good hunting! |
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Quote: That is one very fine rifle. The owner should be very happy and M.Dorleac proud of their work. Mehulkamdar thanks for going to the effort of gaining permission and posting those photo's. |
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That is a superb piece of kit |
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Very nice. Well done. |
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The name and address are rolled on. Make of it what you will. |
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How can you tell (assuming you are correct) ? best, Mike |
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must have been some nutter running around with a roll stamp. He got my .404 too:) |
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Same midget-licking bastard hit my 6.5mm mannlicher too. ;-) Cheers Tinker |
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Snipped. Good hunting and happy viewing, gentlemen! Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to share pictures of their fine guns here. |
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^ I'm not judging merely stating that that many outfits did it (ribs etc) and I have one shotty that features it.snipped |
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Mike, Because engraving tools provide a "facet cut" similar to precious stone cutting. Look closely at the lettering and it is sunken to a U shaped trough at the bottom. Though the original die was cut by a skilled die sinker/engraver and recut over its (usable) life. There again if you look at a Rigby double or similar it is quite a different matter as the name and address were hand cut. A mate of mine spent 50 years in the trade working on both dies and gun/ jewellery projects and taught me much of what he knew. BTW I've seen everything from his work to Durs Egg and other great makers. Underlever (a forum member) and professional engraver can provide a more lucid explanation than this as to how the gravers are shaped to produce various effects. I think the machinery to do such has fallen out of favour. |
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True, single point hand engraving is often seen as the technique employed at/on a barrel/rib address of a high grade maker. Also true, there are heaps of Jeffery rifles with this typical barrel address 'stamped' as such, not hand engraved. Nothing wrong with what's seen on the barrel of the 333 Cheers Tinker |
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^ none implied. |
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Beautiful rifle and restoration! I'm trying to figure that folding hood on the front sight though. It looks like it actually blocks the line of sight when it is in the forward folded position? I guess it is not really a folding hood but actually a removable hood? |
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Yep. BTW the hand engraving on the reinforce, receiver, trigger guard incl floorplate is the real thing and featured as an optional extra (sorta celtic themed as Harry Kell used to do for Purdeys). There was a Jeffrey with the same work featured here some time back that had seen the ravages of time. Someone remarked on its authenticity and it was the same pattern but maybe recut or badly machine buffed. |
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Information on the Jeffery from Joel Dorleac: Hi Mehul, More info about the .333 Rimless Jeffery Mauser we have restored. That rifle, of the N°2 pattern, was built before 1912 (we think) by W.J JEFFERY & C° Ltd, London, on a much modified DWM 1909 Mauser 98' action, the majority of the parts retaining the original DWM serial number. That action was expertly altered and the rear bridge opened to fit the .333 Rimless, leaving all their strength to the front lug mortises. The rounded magazine floorplate appears original and such an option was offered for their .333 they call “1908 Model” , page 57 of Jeffery’s 1912/1913 season catalog under the following terms: “These Rifles can be had with a Magazine to hold 4 cartridges, but as it projects below the Stock, the Rifle look clumsy and is not so handy....” To assure a better shot release, a new single stage trigger has been fitted during the overhaul. The heavy 25" tapered barrel is made of QS "Nickel Steel" and bears a five platinum lined leaves express sight parade regulated on a caterpillar silver faced front bead with distinctive locked swing away protector. To complete that sighting galore, the bolt was lately fitted with a "Sportaget" PH folding peep sight. Notice also that the markings on the top of the barrel are not rolled on, but hand engraved. The full action and the rear end of barrel are engraved in the particular style of that period, a blend of art deco and foliate scrolls, characteristic of the best quality JEFFERY rifles, and on the safety catch "SAFE" is inlaid in gold. Our client asked we also gold inlay the serial number on the triggerguard bow. The 14½" LOP stock, finished wit a 7/8" red Silver's pad (in place of the original “Roughened Iron Heel Plate”), is made of dense straight grained French walnut with quiet figure but of upmost quality for such a big game rifle. A black buffalo horn tip caps the forend and the grip is fitted with an engraved color casehardened steel cap (a replacement during renovation). A vacant silver oval adorn the lower portion of the stock, above the casehardened English swivel eye. In spite of its 8lb-14oz weight, that perfectly balanced rifle is very fast on target. This particular JEFFERY has benefited from a fastidious, no expenses spared, restoration and it is presented in its original full-length canvas case with all accessories. As you certainly know, the greater part of that rifles were built for JEFFERY & C° by Mr. Leonard, in Birmingham and being lucky to have seen various samples in various calibers and configurations, I was always surprised by the many variations in their construction and finish, like if they were the works of very different gunsmiths. I took the opportunity of that mail to send you some photos of an excellent Original Mauser Oberndorf 98’ type B made circa 1913. That rifle remains in a very well preserved condition, retaining at least 90 % of its factory bluing slightly discolored, with a perfect stock and all parts to the same number. It is fitted with an old Voigtländer 3x Skopar scope on very nice old-fashioned Suhler claw mounts. ...it belong, now, to the same Spanish customer ! Have a nice day. Best regards. Joel Dorleac snippedI shall post the pictures of the Mauser Model B referenced in this mail on a separate thread shortly. Good Hunting! |
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Marvelous restoration work! |
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In short the restocking is better than the original and this is apparent. M. Dorleac is entitled to his "quoted" opinions as to the methodology employed in the barrel address markings however my judgement stands. The QS stamp is apparent in later Jeffrey models incl PD Farkies as barrel steels improved and in particular Krupps "flusstahl" and pommy equivalents were employed to redress the issue of steel suitability and so marked. And as to the issue of "M. Lenord" might I refer you to the Winfer series on falling blocks? snipped |
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4seventy, Yes, the hood simply slips off from the upright position. Must be easy to lose judging by the number of Jeffs missing them... I need to look at more Jeff bolt guns, but I don't think I have seen one with the rear bridge taken down on the left (bolt release) side like this one has. Not sure if that serves any real purpose. Also, regardless of what Dorleac says, the address is rolled on which was clearly common on Jeffery rifles of any grade. EDIT: Upon closer looking, the address on this gun looks to be much deeper than on my 333 Jeffery which has an original finish, so I think mine is about as deep as the day it was struck. There also looks to be a "stippled" texture in the bottoms of the characters. Perhaps the stamping was chased with an engraver at some point |
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Quote: Very true! About one of the nastiest things I've see was in Speeds mauser book. A .500 jeffery "restored" with an american style stock, and the offending parties name engraved on the front reciever ring. This jeffery is done right. . |
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BTTT for the recent .333 Jeffery discussions. |
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So classic. I love the long bbl. |