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Hi Marrakai, Daryl S and DPhillips, I want to apologize myself to the above mentioned Gentlemen if I created some high blood pressure posting the 6,5x53R Mannlicher 1898. Here is the explaination : According to the Austrian hunting school lessons we have a differnt ways of talking about Mannlicher hunting rifles. A Mannlicher in 6,5 caliber is everytime for us a 6,5x53R and a Mannlicher Stutzen ( full stock )in 6,5 is for all of us hunter in Europe a 6,5x54 M.Sch. Marrakai the beer is already cooled down for you.You are welcome at any time in my home. But if I find time when I am retired we can take some beers together in Australia during a hunting trip with you.I plan it for 2010. My grandfather ordered in 1900 also a o/u gun in 6,5x53R and 16GA and a M.Sch.in 6,5x54 M.Sch.as posted. Exuses to all and regards Johann |