Niel, Thanks for the detailed reply and yes, please post the map and information.

I had a look at a map to see how far East I got and couldn't find Port Elizabeth, now obviously known by some unintelligible darkie name of Gqerberha, reads like some spam email spider word ....

I got as far as Port Elizabeth and Addo, which looks to be a bit towards the coast from your hunring area.

Looks like a nice place to hunt. And especially cool if the big five are also present in places.

Addo while a National park, also had elephonat of course, but also rhinio, black rhino I think the spoor pile was from, we didn't see it. A lion pride in the distance, the bakkies couldn't approach in a SAf park. Leopard, didn't see any. Cape buffalo of course. I remember an elephant chasing our Landcruiser on a road for a long distance. But most elephant did not have their musk glands leaking unlike the elephant where I had hunted previously in the Zambezi Valley.

One day I hope to visit the area again and also further to the East in Natal. A Nyala and Bushpig are on my wanted list. Also the "small guys" antelopes.

So hunters living in the closer settled regions around Stellenboach need to travel a fair distance to hunt? is ther eno buck living in the areas around the vienyards at all? There are tall mountains, surely some wild game still exists? Even if not in great numbers? I would think vineyards would sometimes have some buck feeding in them in the mornings or at dusk and over night. Duiker? Bushbuck? And I would assume an occasional leopard still lurks in those mountains? Am I wrong in my beliefs?

I have visited George! Is it not a seaside city or town with a circular bay and a small island at the mouth of the bay? I think this is the city where we did a "ghetto tour" with a local black tourist agency who took us into the otherwise unsafe black township areas, up on the hill above. They were actually Sudanese settlers and had a shop there. Also visited a school or orphanage with some craft shop. Bought some table place mats there, as we were onbviously expected to buy something. Given the hsotory of the ap[artheid era where the school kids were on strike, riots, burnings etc etc etc. From their point of view obviously. Interesting those telling us all this actually came from Sudan or Somilia and obviously moved to SAf SINCE white rule ended ... so not them at all. Complete foreignors.

But interesting enough to hear it and see all the sights of George. If that is where it was.