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Haenel and Schilling were still making new actions and also complete carbines for export to china and south america up to 1914. the better quality hunting rifles I collect here in this thread were build on brand new carbine actions. the cheap quality hunting rifles are real sporter made from surplus military rifles. imho, there was no production of M 88 rifles in Suhl ever but only carbines. here we have them all the high quality gentlemans rifles for 95 Mark the "Reptier-Pirschstutzen" in 8x57I as a hunting rifle made from a carbine 88 with hunting sights and another sling swifel for 44 Mark. to change the barrel for the 9x57 was a littleness in Suhl than. the original M 88 military rifle for 55 Mark is probably surplus and the M 88 carbine for 40 Mark maybe a new made gun from Schilling or Haenel too because you read "like those in service with the german cavalry". add 4 mark for the hunting sight and sling swifels and you have the "Repetier-Pirschstutzen" above. your Lyon&lyon carbine have also those sling swifels! such guns had sometimes the notice "cheap rifle for delivery into the colonies" simply because it was also a first and third world hundred years before and people there had not so much money. a friend in Finland found also a carbine 88 in 9x57 in an estate once, will ask him if he still have pics. it was a good monetary option to the Mannslicher Schönauer Stutzen for 165 Mark |