| 2152hq |
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| 22/04/13 10:37 AM |
Re: Hubertus ???
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Thanks for the pics of the 1900 & 1909 (Steyrs(?)
I have one of each and was lead to believe they were Model 1900 or 'New Model' Steyr rifles.
A failed Military contract for China,,the remaining actions remodeled into sporters.
Whatever,,they are unique and beautiful sporting rifles.
B--ls--t! These are not "Steyrs made for export", nor are they "remodeled into sporters"! The M1900 and M1909 sporting rifles were built from scratch by C.G.Haenel, Bahnhofstr.16, Suhl, Germany! Even most Suhl made sporting rifles on M88 actions are not converted ex-military actions, but are legitimate commercial sporters the same as original Mauser Oberndorf commercial sporting rifles, Lee-Speeds or Remington model 30, 30S and 720. Of course, Haenel strived for military contracts too, but only succeeded to sell a few M1909 rifles in military configuration to Paraguay and China.
Turn the heat down,,no need to over cook!
All I said was what I was told that's all.... 'Actions' remodeled in to sporters (sporting rifles).
But you do admit they did have a failed Military contract with China and the 1909 Model though....so there was a China link to the rifles in there some place.
Succeeding in selling only a few rifles (to China) would be a failed Military contract,,making use of what was not sold to China would be using them in the building of sporting rifles. My guess was it was only the actions were of use to Haenel and their commercial market at that point.
Just asking.
..do you know where the term 'New Model' or 'Neu Model' fits (or doesn't) in when describing these particular rifles.
Is that something Haenel used or something the collectors have decided fits. I've seen it used more than once.
Also the 1911 ALFA catalog reprint shows these in 3 or 4 different configurations and as a '1904 Model' IIRC.
Just looking to untangle their history that doesn't seem to be in print anywhere.
As I said,,nice rifles just the same,,,,
I'll go stare at my Steyr Neu Model 1904 rifles now.