lancaster
(.470 member)
15/04/10 12:52 AM
No Lee Speed!

It was very boring last time because my mosin project don’t realy move and to end it and avoid serious mental problems only chance was to buy a new rifle.
Bolt actions for obsolete medium bore cartridges allways catch my eye’s and a lee speed in 375 NE 2,5” flanged was on the list now. But before seeing such a beast I stumble about a Mannlicher M 92:


was coming with a side mount and old german Ajack 4x90 scope and original sling



good company, M 88 9x57 Mauser, M 92 375 NE Flanged, M 96 9,3x57 Mauser, M98 10,75x57 , M98 11,2x60 Schüler






of course, 3 screw’s from the sidemount have to leave the house

the Mannlicher M92 is a modification from the german Commision rifle M 88. the M 88 bolt fits into the Mannlicher without problems. Maybe I invent the 375 NE Flanged Rimless some day. The Mannlicher bolt has a modification on the left side of the bolt head that makes impossible to put it into the M 88.




the M 92 with the M 88 bolt












The british were clever enough to understand that a mannlicher was not such a wimp like a lee speed. Proof it with 40 grains cordite and a 320 grains bullet. Common load for 375 NE flanged was 40 grains cordite and 270 grains bullet. Anyone ever seeing this “proof load”?


Inscription on the barrel is”Wilkinsons 27. Pall Mall London S.W.”
Maker or Retailer?











The dealer I bought it import the rifle from the united states years ago as you see it.
It is the first M 92 in 375NE I ever found but some weeks ago there was a similar sporter on accuratereloding originaly sold by Holland&Holland




http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1411043/m/2171078621

what do you think? I see that the forearm of my rifle is a little bit differentt but are both rifle’s in fact this webley model?



the cartridge seems to be a Holland&Holland development from 1899 for ligth double rifles with the small frame for the 303 cartridge.



before the great war made from eley


and of course also from kynoch/ ICI


british made ammunition was also available in germany but I am dare to say it was never sold in bulk pack’s


here Burgsmüller 1926


the cartridge and chamber dimensions, 2000 bar is for the old copper crusher method




“The Clip Club”, ancient noble society


6,5x53R Mannlicher with original box, dutch military load from 1926
375 NE flanged on Mannlicher clip
9x57 Mauser on M 88 clip
9,3x53R on Mosin clip
9,3x57 on swedish Mauser clip( Husqvarna M 46 need this)
10,75x57 on Mauser 98 clip



I have got 30 bertram 405 Win cases with the rifle, it was necessary to reduce the rim diameter .04” to get 5 cases into the clip. Also some 220 grains Hornady roundnose bullets which the owner have shot with 55 grains Vithavouri N140 before.


In the end I will never again have a reason to buy a lee speed now if not a 8x50 R coming away some day.



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