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I tell you what Tom, they certainly shoot !! The one I acquired had a "rusted pitted bore" but my gunsmith tried it out, see the following article, http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_mini-14_m-s_carbine.htm and it still shot a group 30% smaller than the new Ruger !!! I reckon yours with a good bore will be a cracker, best, Mike |