I think we all have a lot of commentary! A nice rifle and medium 8mm cartridges are very good for hunting medium game at medium range. Just a commentary about the "8x60S Magnum-Bombe".On paper a 12g bullet 890m/s ,but with a barrel of 72cm! And a lot of pressure!!! In my opinion the difference between the 8x57IS, the 8x60S and the 8x60S Magnum-Bombe are not big and no relevant in the field when you use a standart rifle.