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Quote: thanks mate i will see if i can get some pictures tonight, unless it gets to rowdy, then you have to imagine them. to our beliefs this day, is the most glorius of days, because this is the turning point. the sun is coming back and the light returns. allthough the winter remains to be batteled at least it will be bright enough to see what you battel against. the tradition of Jul, the julefest, was so strongly embedded in the people of the nordic countrys, that the cristian church had to make a reason to party at this time of year, that did'nt seem pagan. henceforth cristmas HO HO HO. i think you have to live in a place, where daylight is down to 6-8 hours before you can truly understand the longing for light and the feeling of joy when you turn the corner. as a ase/vane beliver i wish you the traditionel greeting of GOOD YEAR AND PEACE(may your enemys suffer and you prosper all the same) best regards peter |