By the way, 450, another excellent round that is quite similar to the .38 Super is the .357 SIG. It provides some velocity increase over the regular 9x19, recoil is very light in my SIG 226 and it is maybe the most accurate stock pistol I've ever owned. Also a bottleneck auto pistol round...I like them!

The SIG 226 is a large pistol, however, and I somehow leave it home more than take it with me anymore. For our area it is a great backcountry companion for ski jaunts though. For that matter, so would a hotloaded .38 Super.