This is good to know-I have been throwing around the idea of getting a pair for my at home securtiy gun I keep by my bed---have never visited with anyone who has used them --plan to put them either on a .45 or maybe a Glock 40 cal..

In visiting and reading a recent article in a magazine where the US Troops are using todays weapons it appears they have little or no respect for the 9mm as to close range stopping power--

Ripp