As I referred to defensive use and referred to numerous accounts of actual bear attacks. As I said there accounts pretty much showecany decent handgun was useful. In either stopping an attack or lessening it's severity. The threads are on NE. I'm not saying it will kill the best but either prevent the attack following through or lessen it. Phil on here used a 9mm to kill a brown bear in a charge. Lucky but true.

It's not about hunting and killing them.

But anyway, mostly a moot point. Good to discuss and argue about.