Ripp
(.577 member)
29/10/20 07:41 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....

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+1

Those bigger guns are a definite improvement for sure.

Jack Lott, the creator of the .458 Lott and of course a well-known fan of bigger is better, got curious about the Philippines Insurrection "Charging Moros" story that drove US Army development of the .45 ACP. He wrote an article about it many years ago and totally debunked it. I've got a copy around someplace. The problem w/ the previous guns, the Colt .38 Colts involved really anemic ammo and the guns were junk. Even General Hatcher admitted that. Lott dug into the after action reports and Army personnel were complaining that their M1897 Winchester 12 ga pump guns w/ buckshot and their Krag .30-40's were not always effective at stopping rushes by Moros...so how could the .38 be singled out as a loser!

I have a monograph here on US Army Trials of the 1907 Luger in..... 7.65/.30 Luger. Some of the cavalry units issued these pistols reported "stopping power" as a feature of the gun!

The whole subject is fraught with inconsistencies, contradictions and...as you say...marketing BS for sure!




IF you ever get a chance to dig that article up would enjoy reading that.. really interesting info..

AS to the ineffectiveness of the 38--always found it interesting how many use the .357 Mag. for bears.. same diameter.. just a bit faster.. NO human is as tough as a bear.. no matter what they snort before an attack..

I have shot several deer size animals with a 38 special..had no issue dispatching them..



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