Thanks for that.

The wording for SA is what I expected it to me.

I believe I remember a state or two were adopting similar self defence provisions from the older versions.

I wonder if there are additional provisions also in existence. On the test of "reasonableness"? There used to be a test "what the common man in the street would think was resonable". Perhaps other wording but same intent. The SA wording changed that to the specific individuals belief, not "the average man". I wonder if there are other provisions, or common law case judgements which affect these paragraphs substantially?

Irrespective of BS laws, my attitude is defence oneself to the extent one feels is necessary. And worry about the BS laws later. And later keep ones mouth shut until proper legal representation.