Ripp
(.577 member)
08/11/17 12:36 PM
Re: Is the 40 S&W DEAD???

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just some observations.first seals would be effective even with 22 rimfires, i believe the feller that shot the hood in the gunshop was using a 45 that guy dropped like a sack of potatos . a one shot stop.if u want to burn a hole in something us a tokarev. ask any german on the western front how his 9mm held up.maybe no one in leo can hit anything cuz u carry too much ammo. i bet 6 rounds of 357 in cool hands trumps 14 in barneys hands, my 1911 runs like a sewing machine my glock is not as smooth, the weaver stance may not be the way to shoot.allow everyone in leo to carry what they want.my 130lb daughter has never complained about the recoil or muzzle rise in any gun i hand her. i beleive its all perception. if u don't like to shoot don't be a cop,push papers somewhere.




Not buying the above--SEAL's could probably kill with a .22 but they are not, they chose the 9mm and for a reason..have a friend I train handgun with who was with Seal Team 1 until the late 90's..after which time he did some private contract work along with a brief stint with the (spooks)..think his opinion/advise may have a bit of weight behind it

Secondly, comparing the Glock to a 1911...I'll take that bet..you choose whatever 1911 you want, custom or otherwise..I'll walk into Walmart and grab a Glock off the shelve..bet yours goes down first as to jam or reliability..have read many articles and talked to many in LE that have in excess of 100,000 rounds through their GLock ..never a misfire or jam. And some way way over that number...

I train/workout with LEO every week..one group was recently (actually now about 1 1/2 yrs ago) given Colt 1911's..none of them like them for a duty pistol compared to what else is now available..and YES, I have seen them shoot..that is not the issue..they are not complaining about recoil..moreover the excess weight along with the ammo and limited amount of rounds in the weapon vs what else is available..most cases in today's world, you engage a criminal his firearm will have more than 6 or 8 rounds..and in today's world, they run in groups..Just read an account of a guy firing two warning shots in the air when he spotted two guys trying to steal his car, one spun around and returned fire killing the owner of the car..

http://www.live5news.com/story/36127227/...tealing-his-car

I have 1911's as well...along with pretty much most off the shelve handguns you can currently purchase..and typically shoot weekly....there is no doubt the .45 has more energy..but given the reasons I gave in my previous post, will take one of the high capacity 9's for self defense over the 1911 90% of the time....

In the end, whatever you feel best about and most comfortable with is the one you should use,
As they say, the best handgun is the one you have in your hand when you need one..



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