I absolutely feel the .45 and 40 have merit as does 9mm...for me one of the clinchers is if the SEALS are using it, it can't be too bad and must be doing its job..I would ask osama for a reference but he doesn't seem to be answering his phone lately..

One of the issues I have with the .45 is the number of shots I will have on me, especially concealed..in today's world I feel even more so than in years past, its not that uncommon to have multiple attackers..or, you turn down the wrong street some night and a bunch of "enlightened" ones feel they are being treated unjustly so they decide to start burning stores and tourching cars..beating the crap out of those in the area..in that scenario especially, I'll take 15 or17 rounds over 8 every time..each to their own, but that would be my choice..and yes, I know we live and die by the choices we make, I feel comfortable with mine..

Ripp