I agree with your comments John I think the average run-of-the-mill is not that great of a pistol shot from what I see at the range and talking to other people... I also think there's no denying the power advantage of 45 over at 9 I remember years ago in competitions seeing who could shoot the fastest and accurately shooting bowling pins and the 45 with completely blow them off the table where the nine would just tip them over you have to shoot them again and again to get them to roll off the table.. there's also Sunny to being able to get on target quicker with a nine I agree with that as well ...in the end you just have to pick the one you want and go with it... I switch around calibers all the time depending on what I'm trying to accomplish and possibly defend against