Got this shorthaired, wirehaired pointer cross few months ago as an eight week old pup. Not much experience to compare him with but his natural ability is unbelievable to me. Will hold a point on quail while I walk in an flush with no real training. He is also super obedient although when he gets on a bird scent not much else matters. Have not introduced him to gunfire other than .22s as of yet. Will slowly introduce some 12 bore shots in the next few weeks. Wish I'd gotten in to it years ago.