Beveldown, IMHO we should not look to the "name" Scottish gunmakers as to the origin of our rifles. Such simple, unengraved working rifles were usually outsourced by the British "name" and country gunmakers from the many no-name "gunmakers to the trade" of Birmingham, who made them to order in the "house style" of the "name" retailers. F.I., nearly noone knows J. Pople & Sons, 24 New Buildings, Price Street, Birmingham, but the guns and rifles made by them are highly praised and priced for the adress engraved on them and for their quality. They made most of the "second" or "Dominion" grade guns and rifles signed and retailed by Holland & Holland, the ones with the long backaction sidelocks.