200% awesome rifle, no doubt. You can take away 100% and still be 100%!

However... having owned a 450 #2, I don't like it. Why? a) the neck is too short. I really had trouble getting the bullet seated well. The shank of most bullets taper and you have very little to "grip" the case. b) the case is too much volume. 3, yes 3 foam wads needed to take up that cavernes case. Before you 450 #2 gents jump on my ass - this is my 2 cents.

I love the 500/450 and personally consider it the best 450 ever. Holland and Holland got that one dead right.