Well, speaking of Kevin at WR and looking at this Lang at Barnett's, how about a sidelock Lang in far better condition for $2500 more 'ask?' Kevin has this gun, http://www.westleyrichards.com/gun/used_guns_2_product.php?id=25657

True its in a 360 No. 2, but that is a much different proposition than a 360NE and while not anywhere near as potent as the 450#2, this would seem a much better buy and much more gun for the money, but then it's not my money and I am not in the market for either at this point. Dave