Thank you 500Grains! I don't know how anyone can shoot their DG rifles enough to claim proficiency given both the cost of the ammunition and the recoil of the rifles. Even if you reload, the cost of the shots has to be greater than $2/round or thereabouts. My 9.3 using Noslers is roughly $1.50 per shot. That's one of the reasons why I'm going to cast bullets in that rifle. If somebody on this board ONLY shoots big bores and shoots those a lot (20 rounds per week or so), I tip my hat to them. They are tougher than this writer by a fair amount. If you are a PH and carry and shoot your DG rifle year round, I'll concede proficiency due to the familiarity alone. However, consistent with 500Grains comment, that is exactly why I have a Chapuis UGEX in 7x65R on order to complement my UGEX in 9.3X74R. Does the 9.3mm recoil objectionably? Not really, although 20 plus rounds in a single range session is certainly noticable. FWIW...Pilgrim