Sinner,

I am the only one, recently, to have posted about shooting a 22 to learn to shoot off hand better. Read Ripp's post, or review the post here and on other threads and confirm this yourself.

No one learned to shoot shooting a 470. Not you, not me - no one. To pretend otherwise is just ignorant and absurd.

I don't doubt that you have shot enough big bore rounds to "fill a house", so have I, so what. Reread my post, I asked when was the last time you shot 120 rounds of 470, or any equivelent cartridge so far as recoil is concerned, IN ONE SESSION. Don't BS me and other with the "fill a house" in a lifetime red herring. That isn't the issue and not the point.

It takes time to shoot enough big bore ammo to "fill a house". I takes no time to do the same with the 22, and that is the point.

And again, reread my post, I never said that shooting a 22 will prepare you for shooting your double rifle, I said that shooting the rifle you will hunt with will prepare you for your hunt. And I said shooting a 22lr will teach you to shoot well off hand, with a double or any other rifle.

If you don't know your trigger, you will never shoot well, even with a shotgun. Knowing when your rifle or shotgun will fire in critical to hitting any target. Most of us have struggled with a rifle or shotgun with heavy or gritty triggers, this is just an indication of how critical triggers, and knowing them, are. No man can hold a bull off hand with 100% consistency, all will woble, even if just a bit as our heart beats. Knowing when the rifle will fire is the only asurance that the round goes where intended if any distance is involved.

So far as learning to shooting a double rifle with a shotgun, I never said that either, I inferred that loading and handling are so similar that familiarity and proficiency with one leads the same with the other. If you shoot an ejector SxS rifle and an ejector SxS shotgun you will know both, likewise an extractor. If you load from a belt with a shotgun and do the same with a double rifle it will be second nature. "No" big bore rifle is shot the volume a shotgun is. I'll stand by my comments. Same with knowing your two triggers, which most here do not grow up with.

So far as dynamic shooting, you will never learn that at a rifle range. Opportunities to shoot moving targets with a rifle are thin, not so with a shotgun. I am a firm believer and practicioner of shooting a double rifle like a shotgun when the game is close and moving. Of course, this only works if your rifle fits you as it should, wiht the sights aligned when you mount the rifle. Mounting is also the same as the shotgun, and so the benefit of easy, inexpensive, fun, high volume practice with a SxS shotgun.

JPK