400NitroExpress
(.400 member)
16/12/07 11:49 AM
Re: Whats this double like ?

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"I have many, many days and tens of thousands of rounds through O/U shotguns on the skeet, clays, and hunting fields, and can tell you that the above statement simply isn't true."

Why on earth would one want to spend all that time and expend that many shells through an "inferior design" which presents such loading difficulties?




Again, I was referring to shotguns, not rifles. They're clean different things intended for completely different purposes, and what is acceptable for one is not for the other. The speed of the reload with a shotgun is of no importance whatsoever in competition, and is very rarely of any importance in the hunting field. Not so with double rifles.

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At the risk of seeming obtuse, perhaps you could explain to me why O/U shotguns are preferred over S/S in competetive shooting, when handling qualities are especially important.




Again, you're talking about target shotguns, which simply isn't relevant to double rifles. You clearly have your head in target shotgunning and not in double barrel hunting rifles, or hunting guns in general. A competition target shotgun has no more in common with a game gun than a competition bench rest rifle has with an ideal hunting rifle.

If handling qualities are emphasized in target shotguns (like the K-80 for example), somebody sure screwed 'em up. Of course they aren't, only swing is.

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Then you could explain to me why the handling qualities of a S/S rifle are superior to an O/U, when the relationship of shot barrel to rifle barrel is the same.




There are some things that you can't calculate on a piece of paper. I own three times as many O/U shotguns as I do S/S shotguns. I've tried O/U rifles. Don't want one, wouldn't use one.

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I can understand a preference for S/S rifles based on the premise that O/U rifles are generally lighter and built for European style hunting, with perhaps less weight concentrated between the hands, which is a handling issue, but is not defined by barrel configuration.




Not true. It does represent a handling issue which IS defined by barrel configuration. Especially with rifle barrels, it's difficult to concentrate as much weight between the hands with an O/U action as compared to a S/S action. A glance at both actions makes the why obvious.

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A simple ad hominum characterization of "inferior design" will not convince a discerning reader without further exposition.




I'm not trying to convince you of anything as I think your mind is closed. Most people don't agree with you and have voted with their pocketbooks. Large bore O/U DRs are slow sellers and are rather cheap on the used market, as few want them.



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