Each to his own. I've ordered my Holland Royal and I don't think for one moment that Pat in the gunroom would deliver my gun to me in 2 1/2 years time if he didn't think it was "the benchmark for double rifles" (quote in Terry Wieland Dangerous Game rifles). Before placing an order and doing all the research I spoke to an aquaintance who has been in the sporting firearms industry for most of his working life and indeed was managing director of Hollands before the Chanel takeover. When I narrowed my choices down he said, "Holland are no.1, then come Purdey and Westley Richards" He has no connection with the firm now. regards, Mike