Grizzly,

If you look at a top of the line Thys you wouldn't see any faults. I have been lucky to see the number I have given the number of Thys's around. The 470 Thys labeled with G&H's name was a good but plain rifle. A 577 that I saw and handled, also at G&H, was as fine a rifle as you could ever see. It was sold even before G&H received the rifle from the seller.

I have seen some top of the line Heyms too, but the std stuff, well...A good functional rifle.

JPK