Partly to stir things up and partly to settle an old argument....both need to be addressed.

Who here can say that they have seen a double damaged by a monolithics and prove it...

The last guy that came up with that crap about the riflings being pushed outward could not come up with the gun and assured me he was going to take a picture of it and post it over on AR, not only did I not hear from him, he disapeared off into the blue.....Turned out the gun belonged to a friend who didn't have time to photograp it and send me a photo....

Do monolithics build pressure, probably that is more of a problem than anything else, but we have chronographs and they can be loaded down and still get the same velocity..Worth some thought anyway...Excess pressure can take a double off the face but not split the solder IMO...

I have chased this phenomenom for several years and as of today I have never seen a double damaged by monolithics and I know a bunch of PH that have old hand me down Holland and Hollands, Rigbys and such wonderful possession that were bought many years ago for wall hangers, they don't know much about guns and they shoot whatever they can get and that is a lot of monolithics, they have gotten away with it....

The double is a mystic rifle, and it is a child of mystery and fraudulent beliefs that have been passed on from one generation to the next, so much so that no one really knows its capabilities because it has been cloaked in voo doo for the last century or two...

First we hear that fillers blow them up; then we hear that IMR-3031 blows them up; then we hear the 4831 has a long expansion ratio down the barrel and splits out the barrels; then we hear that only copper and lead bullets will not blow them up; then we are expected to believe that copper is harder than steel; and I have forgotten a few of the other fables be they true or not, I do not know, but I do shoot fillers, I do shoot 4831, even 3031, I have shot all maner of bullets such as GS monolithics, Hornady, Noslers and such....Many a solid by Woodleigh, Hornady, RWS, and others I have shot...

I feel that I can guarentee you no bullet is going to push the riflings to the outside of a barrel, that is hogwash of the first order...

So where does all this take us? Well perhaps down the yellow brick road Dorothy, its a fairy tale and the tin man is running the show.......

Its time to seperate the BS from the truth, which in fact none of us know!! I will shoot the GS solids in any double rifle and have shot them extensively in my Army/Navy and my Jefferys without any problem and based on that I will shoot Bridgers in any double as he uses the same metal and design as GS...I will shoot either 4831, 3031 or any other good powder at proper velocity and I will use fillers with RL-15.....

So where do we stand on this issue, do we remain in darkness or do we come out into the light and establish a proper standard for these fine guns....

I have also been a victim of these fables and I have not shot any BarnesX bullets in my doubles, but I know many who have.....

We are talking English guns, not the newer guns of today with better steel which I am sure can shoot any bullet.....

I'm listening? and I do respect any reply to come out of this that has some substance....