| DUGABOY1 |
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| 21/02/07 09:40 AM |
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Re: Rimless Cartridges in DR's ??
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but I couldn't find it in my searches. I understand that double rifles were designed around and work best with rimmed/flanged cartridges, however, it seems that most manufacturers are making double rifles for rimless cartridges. What is the downside to a double in 30/06, 300 Win, 375H&H, or 416 Rigby? Is the "danger" in reality or theory?
ARIZONAAs you have found with this thread, you will get several different views on this subject! It is nice as well when those answers are what you want to hear, and in the case those responding, it seems you've found a gold mine, of opinion that matches yours!
What is harder to hear is an opposing view, and I'm that opposition! IMO, there are several things stated in the answers which are incorrect. One is the idea that because the makers with fine names build doubles with rimless, and belted rimless chamberings, and/or comparitively high pressure cartridges, automaticlly makes it a good idea. They do this because the orders come in from folks who want this, but fail to see the drawbacks of such things, and are willing to pay big money for the service. I find that a full 90% of the double rifles chambered this way are ordered by AMERICANS! You will rarely see a Europien shooting one of these things on anything bigger than a wild hog. In that use the idea is acceptable, because a failier is not life threatening. Rarely will you see one of these rifles chambered for dangerous game owned, or used by other than an American.
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Ruger No1's have for all practical purposes the same type extraction in as much as the extractor is not attached to a 'bolt'. They rarely fail to the best of my knowledge. As to the pressure part of the rimless equation,that probably has a valid question mark attached to it.
The above is the second misconception! A Ruger No1 extractor/ejector is nothing like that of the extractor/ejectors in a S/S double rifle chambered for a rimless cartridge. The Ruger No1 extractor is opperated by the Falling block, and is not in any way a barrier to chambering a round, as it is moved down completely below the surface of the block, when the action is open. The cartridge is not hendered by anything between it and the chamber. As the block is closed, the extractor is moved to the side, and is only allowed to engage the cartridge when it is in line with the extractor grouve on the cartridge. When the action is opened to ejext the empty, the extractor does not move till it is released by the falling block reaching far enough down to be clear of the ejected cartridge, then it ia driven back hard by a very large coil spring. The ejector is a one piece afaire, and there no moveing parts fitted into small cuts that are perpendicular to the face of the barrel, that are opperated by tiny leaf springs, And on the No1, all the parts of the ejector (ONE) move in line with the bore! Continued to avoid time out! NEXT PAGE>>>>