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Hi Stoerte Wie Geht's? On my chapuis 470NE I have had a Docter red dot installed by a part-time gunsmith in Germany. That's really fantastic for it's very tiny and can be removed in 2 seconds and accurately reinstalled in 2 seconds as well. Not cumbersome at all and best of all..............I can see the red spot. Funny ? No. I am redblind (rotblind)and none the less I can see and aim very fast. Yet I haven't kill anything with this rifle, first I have to regulate it with the loads I am cooking. In my opinion this is a very nice red spot. The Zeiss in another option but it's bigger and more expensive. Good luck jb |