I think the older 470 is in Craig's African Experience DVD.Where he is talking in his den talking about cal's one of the only good parts of the vid.I have a question about Rigby why did they sell out to start with?Wasn't the name and rifles doing well?As for the looks of the Doubles I like simple it makes them look more rock soild.Like most of your working P.H. rifles.You can put to much ingraving on stuff.It has to have a Great piece of wood on it no matter what.Dave