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Hey flowerboy! I just had to do that! Anyway, a nice choice for the caliber might be 8x57JRS. It is a rimmed 8x57 with the "new" .323 bore. I have a scoped Dumoulin sxs rifle that is regulated for 196 bullets. I have also worked up loads on US available 170-175, and 200 grain bullets. Pretty rifle and is a dream to shoot and will take anything this country has to offer. Maybe not brown bear? I would use something heavier! There are many makers that can hook you up with this option and it makes for a powerful and liteweight rifle. I agree, that on a break open rifle, go with the flanged round. Just my 2 cents worth! Mark |